Actually, I do have a comment along those lines, I thought did the US forest me Apple do you use USB-C chargers for all those devices? Did this never end up passing?

SShock, 22 hours agoAnd why would this be bad news for me? How does fine to Apple affects me? It just doesn't... more We thought you was an Apple fan.

SShock, 22 hours agoAnd why would this be bad news for me? How does fine to Apple affects me? It just doesn't... more Maybe what he means is that if you hope that Apple will give you money for zealously defending it soon, this news will shatter your hopes.

Apple employees being forced to work on their Saturday by Tim Cook to post comments on here in defense of not including the charger.

77, 15 Oct 2022You have no idea how happy I am seeing them getting shuned. This year they got fined 200milli... more And why would this be bad news for me? How does fine to Apple affects me? It just doesn't. And I've criticized lack of charger since day one because it's nothing but a proft making scheme. So, what were you saying again?

Sun Sand, 15 Oct 2022Its like saying if you sell a shirt a pant or skirt should be included in box!! If you sell a ... more Beautiful

SShock, 14 Oct 2022This is really a thing? WHAT? How are people only raging about iPhones and don't say a th... more Maybe not pretending to have android phone will actually let you know that any android that supports Quickcharge protocol (Qualcomm's) will be compatible to most of third-party charger that support it. This includes pixel phone that you love to pretend to use

Sun Sand, 15 Oct 2022Its like saying if you sell a shirt a pant or skirt should be included in box!! If you sell a ... more "A large percentage of buyers already own charger(s) and don't need yet another one." Then why does Apple (other brands too) ask more money for their phones when removing standard accessories? A 30W Apple power adapter costs 45€. Why doesn't Apple give me these 45€ back when i decide not to get a charger but only their already overpriced 1000€+ phone? You say it would be like asking for trousers when only paying for a shirt. no it is not, because in this case you pay for the trousers too. Apple raises prices but cuts necessary accessories. isn't it embarrassing that when you buy a 1000€+ phone you have to pay additional money to make it work, something that wasn't an issue before? it is like the bags in the supermarket: first, plastic bags became chargeable due to environmental pollution. we still have environmental pollution in the same or even higher scale as before but now the customer has to pay to get a bag. and not just that, paper bags were introduced afterwards but became chargeable too due to their environmental "friendliness". eventually, the customer has to pay for both the plastic bag and the seemingly friendlier paper bag. in short: he has to pay for a SILLY bag. and at Apple, the customer has to pay for a SILLY charger, which he doesn't even get. the environment is the dumbest excuse ever.

Sun Sand, 15 Oct 2022Its like saying if you sell a shirt a pant or skirt should be included in box!! If you sell a ... more defending millionaire company, invalidated comment.

Super Android 22, 14 Oct 2022Yeah because the a12 maxes out at like what, 10-15w? So basically every flagship phone charger... more The question never specified if chargers work at smaller speeds then their maximum, or they don't work whatsoever, I answered the question with assumption with the latter because that would make more sense based on how comment was written.

Amit , 15 Oct 2022 It's good to see governments taking steps against Apple You have no idea how happy I am seeing them getting shuned. This year they got fined 200million Bad news for Blue Trixx Sshock Where are you 3.....?

Hahahaaaaa Lmfaooooooo You deserve more too be fined, more like 19 billion

Its like saying if you sell a shirt a pant or skirt should be included in box!! If you sell a Vest, the box should have a brief!! A large percentage of buyers already own charger(s) and don't need yet another one. This "Brazilian Consumers’ Organisation" must be the original dingbats of planet earth.

Anonymous, 15 Oct 2022My question is: who gets to keep that money? Does the Brazilian Government utilise the money t... more Lol, no. How else do you think governments finance their new BMW, Mercedes and Audi "business" cars?

Grey Wolf, 15 Oct 2022Except is not really like that. Apple charges some small fee (I think nowadays is 5USD, it use... more Do you seriously believe all the cables on AliExpress are certified by Apple and pay anything to Apple? Press X for doubt...

blue, 14 Oct 2022I wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed" mantra. Apple sells only a few ... more Except is not really like that. Apple charges some small fee (I think nowadays is 5USD, it used to be 10USD) to manufacturers who produce accessories with lightning connector. Because lightning connector is licensed by Apple. Also, the third party products need to be certified to use with Apple products (something like MFI, made for iPhone/iPad). Otherwise any damage to the Apple product will result in loose of warranty. That is one of the big reasons Apple doesn't want to ditch lightning connector. They get a lot of money from this license. Is all about money and all about profit. But, of course, Apple fanboys will always find excuses for their beloved brand. I feel sorry for them actually.

My question is: who gets to keep that money? Does the Brazilian Government utilise the money they got from the penalty to buy chargers for their local Apple consumers?

If they were worried about the environment, they would've switched long ago from lightning to USB-c as every other phone did. Their lightning cable is limited to USB 2, a lot slower than USB 3 and thunderbolt (which they have on their Mac). They are greedy. Maybe they'll switch to USB-c now but only because of EU laws.

Actually, not shipping the charger cost much higher to the environment, since the charger we needed will be packaged inside a different box which will cost an extra wrap and papers used when shipped.

blue, 14 Oct 2022I wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed" mantra. Apple sells only a few ... more I wonder why people still keep repeating the "greed" mantra. Apple sells only a few percent of the chargers that iPhone users buy. People use chargers from different manufacturers, because all can charge iPhone with no problem. Oh no no no. Let me enlighten you then. Last year in Russia Apple charger sales went through the roof, 884% increase. 8.4 million chargers sold. A few percent you say? Now let's see how Apple makes even more money out of this. They reduced the size of the box, so they can ship more, paying the same for transportation, logistics. 40% drop in shipping costs. More: when Apple took the charger from the box, why didn't the iPhone price went down? at least a bit? oh i know, it's a small parcel in the total value of the phone, so it was diluted, absorbed. And they had a ton of motives for that, the phone was upgraded etc how convenient. They saved about 6 billion with this cut but didn't pass the benefit to the end consumer. Kept it in their pockets yaaay! It's estimated they made around 293 million worldwide with charger sales. Well, there goes the environment because they had to make charger boxes and ship them etc how cynical. Corporate greed? no, they are full of good will.

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